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    I hear they have been blocking and/or limiting inbound flights, though there is much confusion as to whether or not it's true.

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    There's a really interesting live feed on the BBC website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

    I think the army may yet swap sides in this one, so to speak, in which case Mubarak's number will be up. I also his suspicious abscence from the tee vee* and so on indicates he's concocting a Plan B involving a private jet to anyplace that'll have him and promise not to return him to face the music later on. So, Saudi Arabia?

    The American government's fudging as they assess the situation is quite amusing.

    ETA: *Ooh, he's finally popped up, talking all sensitive-like and promising all sorts of improvements and shit. ETA2: Also, sinister subtext about protecting Egypt from naughty people.

    Somehow, I doubt acting all matey after decades of brutality is going to stuff the genie back in the bottle.

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    Helen, it won't be easy to lose Mubarak for the Americans. Egypt has a peace treaty with Israel, and if his regime falls, the Islamic Brothers could take over, and this could be a nightmare for Israel, hence for America, especially since in Lebanon, a pro-Hizbullah Prime Minister has been nominated earlier this week. With Hizbullah in the North and Islamic Brothers in the South, Israel would feel threatened and hence declare war on all sides. Egypt's Mubarak is a very strategic partner to Washington, and as much as I want him to just piss off already, it won't be an easy case like Tunisia.

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    LOL at that pic. Dude looks totally fed up.

    The analysts at the Beeb were just talking about the Islamic Brotherhood, who indeed sound quite unpleasantly conservative. They were saying they thought it was a completely different situation from the Palestinians electing Hizbollah in their first democratic election, that the IB had shown no real desire for power. How true that is, I don't know, but that was the jist.

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    ^ Just for a check, Palestinians DON'T elect Hizbollah. Hizbollah is only in Lebanon, and Palestinians in Lebanon cannot vote. Otherwise it would be too much to handle here

    The real threat if these regimes would fall, including Tunisia and Egypt, is that Islamists would take over the leadership. And this could be just as chaotic as problematic. They were banned in both countries, but could come upfront whenever they get the chance to do so, especially in Egypt.

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    Haha, fact fail, I withdraw. I think I meant Hamas. Clearly it's far too late at night for me.

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    Here you have the North African fab four, with a bonus


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    More important than Israel to the US (More important that Israel???? IMPOSSIBLE. :P) is probably the Suez Canal. Europe would be fucked if regular transshipment of Gulf oil were imperiled.

    Let's hope Obama manages some kind of not-soul-crushingly-terrible solution.

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    It was quite an emotional scene when the Today Show broadcasted images of Egyptians forming a human chain around the museum of antiquities in order to protect it. They are heroes for doing this. I hope to think I would stand among them if I were there.
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    It's beyond inspirational. I am all verklempt. I want to send out telegrams of solidarity, old skool socialist international style.
    Last edited by Mordecai; 01-29-2011 at 02:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volto View Post
    It was quite an emotional scene when the Today Show broadcasted images of Egyptians forming a human chain around the museum of antiquities in order to protect it. They are heroes for doing this. I hope to think I would stand among them if I were there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mordecai View Post
    It's beyond inspirational. I am all verklempt. I want to send out telegrams of solidarity, old skool socialist international style.
    Me, too! I literally teared up!

    I really don't have anything intelligent to add; but just wanted to say I particularly love Rabih's posts in this thread.
    Last edited by Frasier Crane; 01-29-2011 at 02:45 PM.

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    Love this meme:

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    ^ Wait until you have the Johnny Walker - Keep walking tag on this photo

    In other news, Mubarak's wife Suzanne and their two sons are officially in London.
    Leonard Cohen paid a tribute to her and the boys actually


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    But protestors love sci-fi!


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    I've been glued to a live stream of Al Jazeera:

    http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

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