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    Has anyone seen the Brazilian movie "The Way He Looks"? A coming of age story of a blind teen. It was SO sweet, so romantic - it totally melted my heart.

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    ^ Yes! I love that movie. It's nice to have a gay coming of age story that doesn't end in some bleak or horrific way.

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    Ha! Yes, I was waiting for it. I guess I've watched too much Joss Whedon.

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    I love that movie too! Such a sweet little film.

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    I read this book today, and loved it, but I can't help but notice that the actors they chose seem to make the age gap appear much wider in the film.

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    Wasn't it one of the best books ever? I will die when I see the movie. The scenes in the trailer look exactly as I imagined them while reading. I seriously want to bathe in that book. It's a total masterpiece and one of the most tender, painful, insightful and hottest books I've ever read. Sufjan's Futile Devices works perfectly for the movie and his new song sounds gorgeous. I'm so glad that Sufjan obviously loves the book, too. What I would give for him to call me by his name.

    Btw, Hammer does Oliver's "later" perfectly. And while Hammer is obviously older that 24/25, I think it was expertly cast.
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    Well, the book isn't ready for Audible. It will come out on audio book October 3rd or 13th?? Looked up his other books and they don't have audio files, either.
    I've not read an entire book since the paperback version of The Witching Hour. I have severe eye fatigue and pain, maybe caused by that book. Small font size combined with more than 900 pages. Goodness me.
    Reading glasses don't help, anymore. Might need to just go in and see the eye doctor. But ever since I got Audible on my phone.. I rely on it way too much, I think. It's cheating I guess..
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    I'm fascinated but also somewhat startled that the author isn't gay.

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    I'm fascinated by that as well as he's written about gay relationships more than once. However, for some reason, he is able to capture the silent longing, the frailty of intimacy and the complexities of forbidden love SO well. But ultimately, I think that what elevates Call Me By Your Name and allows it to transcend the "gay fiction" tag is his ability to so acutely dissect human relationships, finding within Oliver and Elio's relationship something so entirely universal that it speaks to everyone. I know that being gay colored my reading of the book, but I assume that anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, can relate to the raw emotions he brings to light.

    Having said all that, I know that it's not as if I should be shocked that straight people can be moved by a love story involving two men. The LGBTQ+ community has watched/read heterosexual relationships on screen and in book forever. A well-written love story moves me regardless of the gender of the couple. I'm glad that it seems as if we're reaching a point as a society where if something is good, it's good, regardless of the sexual orientation depicted. That's something us gays have known forever but it seems as though society at large is finally catching on. Look at Moonlight, for example. I know someone could argue that it goes further back to Brokeback Mountain. However, there are still jokes centered on that movie that came from a place of unease. I didn't hear anyone talk about Moonlight as being a "gay" movie. It was just a great movie. Period. I'm hoping CMBYN will be just as well-received and will be discussed as a "love story" without the need for the word "gay" to precede it.
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    Der Samurai is my favorite queer horror film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    I'm fascinated by that as well as he's written about gay relationships more than once. However, for some reason, he is able to capture the silent longing, the frailty of intimacy and the complexities of forbidden love SO well. But ultimately, I think that what elevates Call Me By Your Name and allows it to transcend the "gay fiction" tag is his ability to so acutely dissect human relationships, finding within Oliver and Elio's relationship something so entirely universal that it speaks to everyone. I know that being gay colored my reading of the book, but I assume that anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, can relate to the raw emotions he brings to light.

    Having said all that, I know that it's not as if I should be shocked that straight people can be moved by a love story involving two men. The LGBTQ+ community has watched/read heterosexual relationships on screen and in book forever. A well-written love story moves me regardless of the gender of the couple. I'm glad that it seems as if we're reaching a point as a society where if something is good, it's good, regardless of the sexual orientation depicted. That's something us gays have known forever but it seems as though society at large is finally catching on. Look at Moonlight, for example. I know someone could argue that it goes further back to Brokeback Mountain. However, there are still jokes centered on that movie that came from a place of unease. I didn't hear anyone talk about Moonlight as being a "gay" movie. It was just a great movie. Period. I'm hoping CMBYN will be just as well-received and will be discussed as a "love story" without the need for the word "gay" to precede it.
    I'm just going to have to suck it up and go to the library and read it eye pain or no. You two have me positively curious about it, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
    I'm fascinated by that as well as he's written about gay relationships more than once. However, for some reason, he is able to capture the silent longing, the frailty of intimacy and the complexities of forbidden love SO well. But ultimately, I think that what elevates Call Me By Your Name and allows it to transcend the "gay fiction" tag is his ability to so acutely dissect human relationships, finding within Oliver and Elio's relationship something so entirely universal that it speaks to everyone. I know that being gay colored my reading of the book, but I assume that anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, can relate to the raw emotions he brings to light.

    Having said all that, I know that it's not as if I should be shocked that straight people can be moved by a love story involving two men. The LGBTQ+ community has watched/read heterosexual relationships on screen and in book forever. A well-written love story moves me regardless of the gender of the couple. I'm glad that it seems as if we're reaching a point as a society where if something is good, it's good, regardless of the sexual orientation depicted. That's something us gays have known forever but it seems as though society at large is finally catching on. Look at Moonlight, for example. I know someone could argue that it goes further back to Brokeback Mountain. However, there are still jokes centered on that movie that came from a place of unease. I didn't hear anyone talk about Moonlight as being a "gay" movie. It was just a great movie. Period. I'm hoping CMBYN will be just as well-received and will be discussed as a "love story" without the need for the word "gay" to precede it.
    I'm nearly finished with CMBYN, the book, Lord only knows if this movie will play anywhere near me, and my impression so far is that Elio isn't gay. He's definitely on the LGBTQA spectrum.. maybe questioning. I don't know. It's not important.
    The first 80 pages are so .... I can't even describe it. I've never read anything like that before. You can't put the book down but it doesn't ever cross over that line into Harlequin territory.

    Do you have any recommendations for other books like this besides Something Like Summer and A Single Man?
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    CMBYN is one of my favourite books ever. Even though its writing is quite simple, almost too diaristic for my taste, it just strikes the deepest chords in me. I casually found it some years ago in a bookstore and I had no idea what it was about, but I was struck by its title, because it was a sentence I had written a couple of years before on my journal; I've always wanted to be called by the name of the one I was in love with. So I picked it and I was thrilled to know it was about two male characters.

    I think no book has ever made me cry so much, not even Virginia Woolf's "The Waves", which is my favourite ever. When the story was over, all I could do was sit on my armchair and weep my eyes out listening to "A Sorta Fairytale" over and over. Now I always par this book with that song.

    The best thing about that book is that it's not an LGBT book, it's a book about time (Aciman is a proustian academic) and about... not love, it doesn't really talk about love. It talks about how absence and distance can magnify your dreams so much that you can project the most intimate core of yourself onto someone else.
    The story ends up in Rome, and I was moving back to Rome at the time, after breaking up with my ex, so it was especially moving.

    I don't know if I want to see the movie. It's such a silent and private story, to me, that I may not tolerate to see it smashed up on a big screen in front of a hundred people.
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Carey again.

    Are we twins? The same here for me. All the way. Except for Rome and all that. CMBYN is now a part of me and every boyfriend has to read it. It's glorious torture. And as I've said before, Futile Devices could've been written for the movie. Maybe he wrote it after reading it? Who knows. Probably not but it just WORKS. And I'll be a blubbering mess in the theatre when that song plays
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    So I assume you two also had a similar experience as Elio?
    I did. Well, my own experience, different setting and different scenarios but their were parts that were almost exactly that way. I was 16 and he was 23 and it was all so perfect and I was just very lucky that my first ever anything was with someone similar to Oliver. Although it lasted off and on a year an a half.
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