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    We are deeply, deeply fucked.



    I just can't with this any more. What do these craven, venal shits have to do to get fired these days?

    The look on Benn's face says it all.

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    This is all turning out to be as much of a disaster as I thought it would be; except I don't have any sense of schadenfreude because this is my future being narrowed in front of my eyes. It would be hilarious if people weren't going to suffer.

    And I still don't buy into the line that Brexit could be successful if the government were stronger or if this or that were different; as far as I can tell the best outcome for Brexit is still a more expensive and less secure version of what we have now.

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    I watched Question Time last night (I know, I shouldn't have) and I have never ever felt more like I want to leave this country. Watching the mob getting riled up by and cheering the meaningless populist bullshit spewed out by Isabel Oakeshott while booing any reasonable point that was made and completely missing the point of everything was just a microcosm of where we're at right now. Where does the country go from this? We're committing an act of self vandalism while half the country applauds it then screams traitor and mutineer at anyone who has a reasonable perspective on it. Even when politicians are conceding that Brexit is going to happen, they're classed as the enemy because they have a more nuanced idea of what the process should be. Even if somehow the whole thing was overturned these people are not going to let it lie because they've been brainwashed by decades of horseshit from the newspapers.

    I'm sick of this debate and I'm sick of the atmosphere in this country. We're in a dire position already after the recession and a decade of austerity and we're going to make it ten times worse for ourselves. I feel like I don't want to hang around in this toxic environment watching that happen.

    I'm in a privileged position because I have Irish citizenship too so I can move across the border or into the rest of the EU, but that is something I've never felt the need to ever do - now I am genuinely weighing up the logistics of it.
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    ^^ I stopped watching BBCQT for this exact reason - I just found it beyond depressing every single week. Ugh, JAE, what the fuck is going on.

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    I really don't see the worth in programmes like Question Time, or its radio-equivalent The Jeremy Vine Show. They serve absolutely no purpose, apart from riling up the population when they hear something they disagree with and affirming their prejudices when they hear something they already think. Experts are rarely featured. I think that sort of below-the-line comment programming is attractive, as people love a bit of righteous anger, and it allows the BBC to show that it's listening to the opinions of 'ordinary' people, but I don't give a fuck what Mark from Peterborough thinks about transgender rights and I worry that the BBC thinks I should. Best avoided.

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    Why is this happening to me? beanstew's Avatar
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    Yeah, QT gammons just anger up the blood before bed.



    Listen to Late Junction on BBC Radio 3 instead and discover something beautiful from the weird and wonderful music they play. Much better for the soul.
    Maybe for once, someone will call me "Sir" without adding, "You're making a scene."

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    It's all going to be so worth it because we'll be able to have blue passports *slow clap*.

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    Man banging on about colour of his passport clearly more concerned about colour of his neighbours
    A man demanding that the colour his passport be changed is clearly more concerned about changing the colour of his neighbours, it has emerged this morning.

    Simon Williams, 62, has been telling anyone within earshot this morning that changing the colour of his passport will be ‘one in the eye for those unelected eurocrats in Brussels!’, seemingly unaware that EU members can have a passport of any colour they like, should they choose to implement it.

    Williams’ neighbour Sanjeet told us, “As I’ve explained to him, more than once, Croatia’s passport, for example, is black and gold, but he had no interest in that and just said having blue passports would bring back the good old days when ‘everything was the right colour’.

    “No, I’m not entirely sure what he meant either.”

    Williams has been tireless in his pursuit of a different colour for his passport ever since Nigel Farage explained to him that it was a key part of ‘Britain taking back control’.

    He told us, “I vividly remember Nigel waving a blue British passport at photographers when he stood in front of that big poster with the thousands of brown refugees coming into the EU across one of its many porous borders – and something about that image really resonated with me.

    “It was definitely the passport, definitely. Ever since then, I’ve repeatedly insisted that the colour of our passport is the number one priority for me, even if the government has to spend half a billion pounds changing it.

    “But you can’t say anything these days; you get called a racist just for saying you don’t like the colour of your neighb…passport. I meant passport.”
    Sounds about right.

    I like this too from @mikegalsworthy.



    I saw Dr. Mike speak at a pro-EU rally. He was excellent!

    I dug out my old passport. If it's blue is certainly a very dark blue. Some would call it black even. Black, black. they keep me a cellar and feed me pins! My eyes are bees!

    Maybe for once, someone will call me "Sir" without adding, "You're making a scene."

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    Sadiq Khan speech disrupted by Brexit and Trump supporters
    A group of protesters backing Brexit and Donald Trump have disrupted a speech by the London mayor, Sadiq Khan.

    Khan’s address on gender equality to the Fabian Society in central London was suspended for several minutes on Saturday morning while a small number of demonstrators from a recently formed far-right group called the White Pendragons made their protest.

    Shortly after Khan began speaking at the society’s new year conference, one man told the audience: “Ladies and gentlemen, we’re here today to make a non-violent, peaceful citizen’s arrest.”

    One man shouted “No to the EU” and another displayed a US flag.

    Audience members began to heckle and slow-clap, but the protesters resisted attempts to remove them, claiming they would sue anyone who touched them for “common assault”.

    Several police officers then moved in to escort them from the venue.

    The protesters claimed the Fabian Society was “subverting our English constitution”, with one quoting the Magna Carta.

    Outside the hall, the ITV News reporter Paul Brand asked them several times for clarity about their objection to the society, but failed to get a clear response.

    He said in a tweet that they claimed to be neither a racist, nor a far-right group. “But they told us Sadiq Khan has no right to be Mayor of London, referencing his religion.”

    When Khan, a former chair of the Fabian Society, resumed his speech he quipped: “On the plus side, I wasn’t served with a P45” – a reference to Theresa May’s Tory conference speech that was interrupted by a prankster.

    The mayor added: “It is a pleasure to be here even though we were distracted by the actions of what some would call very stable geniuses.”


    White Pendragons eh? Let's see what they've got to say for themselves.



    Nothing coherent, surprisingly.



    And angry gammon faced man. *shocked face*

    The People’s Bailiffs are taking back control.

    Of course they are. Oh, and a bunch of freeman of the land bollocks. The surprises keep coming!
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