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    She is the physical embodiment of the song in that video. It's so real it's heartbreaking.
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    I wish CC and Lady in Blue were piano only on the album. That whole live performance is amazing and she seemed quite sad. Over the Rainbow especially
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelust View Post
    I wish CC and Lady in Blue were piano only on the album. That whole live performance is amazing and she seemed quite sad. Over the Rainbow especially
    Remember when she debuted them solo at SXSW and we collectively lost our shit? Good times...

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    Yes ^. Tori was back! We were expecting a raw emotional album. Then we got the "shock, got the shock of my life" single of Fire to your Plain...
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    I was trying to remember the track list from memory last night, and all I know is that track 1 is Give.
    I think I could probably at least tell you the general order of all other albums, and at least name all the songs, but with AATS, I can only come up with about half the songs and no idea what order.
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    Wow. I had somehow missed the FM4 performance way back in 09. I just saw it and it completely floored me. All of the AATS stuff (even Mary Jane!) sound like actual Tori Amos songs. The big thing for me is that you can discern actual lived experience and emotion (probably, despair) behind these songs. The whole idea of trying to make these songs sound "luxurious", or whatever she was trying to do in the album, brings forwards the sadness even more in these live renditions. And somehow, the artwork now makes sense to me: I always felt that in the AATS artwork she seemed so... absent, I guess. And this absence seems to extend everywhere in the album. She wrote an album about coming apart at the seams but tried to completely deflect everyone from focussing on it by talking about sacred erotica/sanctified BDSM or what have you. Suddenly, the missed opportunity that was AATS is even more painfully apparent.

    And that Curtain Call performance is downright heartbreaking. Listen to those chord progressions in the chorus and how claustrophobic they sound. I cannot help thinking that in CC she has now traded places with Carbon who "only wants to be unmade". You just want to give her a tight hug at the end of CC. And the transition from CC to Cloud on My Tongue is also very telling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeropoint View Post
    And the transition from CC to Cloud on My Tongue is also very telling.
    ^ Can you expand on your thought here? COMT is a song I have never quite understood the meaning of... but I do love it.
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    I wonder if this album will grow in appreciation once she is, hopefully, fully recovered from whatever was going on and we can look back at it and see the sadness and beauty of that era.
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    The last few years, Tori seems more awake and aware of herself. Do you think she would ever comment on what you guys call her Fori years?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the most open she discussed losing her way during her 40s was in a segment of this interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelust View Post
    ^ Can you expand on your thought here? COMT is a song I have never quite understood the meaning of... but I do love it.
    Okay, the way I read it is like this: both songs are about going round and round in circles that might be self-defeating in their outcome. However, CC is very much a song about diminishing returns whereas COMT is a narrative of acknowledgment of diminishing returns and willingness to cross the barrier into emancipation. That dimension of emancipation seems completely absent from CC; indeed, it seems to me that in CC, even Art seems to be no longer Doing The Trick, if you see what I mean. So, having COMT right after CC is like she's trying to invoke the energy of a previous version of herself to muster the courage to go forth. If we were to compare the structure and denouement of these two songs, they could not be more different: the obliqueness of COMT stands in huge contrast to the straightforwardness of CC. In terms of theme, there is still hope at the end of COMT; at the end of CC, not so much. I am only scratching at the surface here but I hope you can see what I am getting at.

    And look at the three songs opening the concert:

    Maybe California
    Leather
    Curtain Call

    Having COMT complete the opening arc of the concert seems to be providing some sort of respite, I guess. Hope this makes sense.

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    Thank you!
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    Omg I had never seen the Maybe California performance from that concert. It' so fucking sad, jesus. It makes me cry, and it's not easy to do that!
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    I don't think I've listened to Maybe California since... 2010? 2011? I just watched that performance and though I wasn't floored, I was moved. It might not be her best, but it says a lot about her as a performer if she can stir emotions in me with a song that I once referred to as a "a piece of shit on a stick sold as a lollipop".
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    On the Native Invader thread people is talking about how lame is 500 miles and how nice is its bridge, I post my thought here because being OT makes me feel so bad.

    Imho 500 miles is actually ruined by the arrangement. Solo piano is a cute song with a beautiful bridge. If we ignore some of the lyrics.

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