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    For a while I was concerned that violent car racing games might influence my kid's and maybe even my driving. I did have a few passing thoughts a couple of times, but of course never acted on it. But if there is a connection between desensitizing video games and real life, wouldn't there be crazed drivers around, smashing cars because that's what they do at home?

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    I think if there's anything we should be concerned about re: desensitization, it's porn's role in cultivating and perpetuating toxic masculinity + sexuality. Not violent movies and video games that feature guns.
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    I have to assume that you guys are generally stable, not mentally ill, have positive connections in your life and don't spend 12 hours at night playing. For those kids with no supervision or adults who otherwise meet with no success outside of their video game life or have no anchors to the real world - they can be highly influenced by violent video games.

    For all you players - do you ever find yourself dreaming about playing them? You may be smart and healthy enough to realize the difference between right and wrong and real vs fantasy, but that is not true for all people.
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    I'm sure there is a correlation, but are people who are more likely to attack play games? It could be backwards. I'm sure there is some relevancy, but no more so than toxic masculinity culture, poverty, lead levels, mental illness... and oh, cheap and easy access to killing weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezebelle View Post
    For those kids with no supervision or adults who otherwise meet with no success outside of their video game life or have no anchors to the real world - they can be highly influenced by violent video games.
    Agreed.

    I have never played a violent video game in my life and I pretty much eschew films that I deem glorify violence. That said, I have held a firearm in the past so WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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    American culture saturates the world. And yet, mass shootings are pretty much confined to here.

    And we all know why. But gun fanciers like to play pretend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Markness View Post
    I think if there's anything we should be concerned about re: desensitization, it's porn's role in cultivating and perpetuating toxic masculinity + sexuality. Not violent movies and video games that feature guns.
    Wait..wut? Porn? Nah. That falls into the same category of violent video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina Phalange View Post
    I'm sure there is a correlation, but are people who are more likely to attack play games? It could be backwards. I'm sure there is some relevancy, but no more so than toxic masculinity culture, poverty, lead levels, mental illness... and oh, cheap and easy access to killing weapons.
    It's such a interesting, and complex subject. I have a master's in Media Literacy and spent two years studying this. I still don't consider myself an expert, nor do I claim to have anything close to an answer. We did a lot of work studying what those ingesting media may interpret from the violence in action movies and games. For instance, we watched Rambo and we concluded that oftentimes in movies like that, the protagonist not only gets to shoot bazookas and big ass fucking guns, but he's a hero after. There's virtually no consequence to punching someone in the face or shooting him dead if you're the good guy. While we study that very specifically, we decided an important roll, in school or at home, would be to teach kids at an early age that it's not fucking real. It's fantasy. Hence media literacy.

    I'm not of the belief media - games or movies or news - is at fault for societal ills. It's that we can't teach kids the difference between what's real and what's not. And guns. As often pointed out, these issues hardly exists in other parts of the world. We all know why.

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    You know what I don't want to hear anymore? How the middle of the US geographically is somehow morally superior to us liberal coastal elites. They are garbage like this, they elect garbage like this, they condone garbage like this. Sure, we have our own garbage on the coasts and there are wonderful people in the middle, but I'm talking about the elevation of one group of us over another, the "real American" narrative. It's bullshit.


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    That's all kinds of fucked up. For all kinds of reasons.
    If the Midwest of so morally superior, why do I still not feel safe holding my girlfriend's hand when I go out, here in good ol' Missouri? Yeah, fuck that noise. And my city is relatively progressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regina Phalange View Post
    I'm sure there is a correlation, but are people who are more likely to attack play games? It could be backwards. I'm sure there is some relevancy, but no more so than toxic masculinity culture, poverty, lead levels, mental illness... and oh, cheap and easy access to killing weapons.
    It's a circulatory system of toxic culture all just constantly feeding itself. It definitely stems from a certain standard of masculinity that some corners are doubling down on now that its toxicity is being scrutinized and questioned.

    I think porn is a good example; if young men grow up getting their sex education from videos of women simply servicing men, without even getting to the really disturbing stuff, then that is obviously going to bleed out into the real world and thus feed into the next generation of porn which will then become normalized etc etc. And I'm not saying porn is inherently bad (that's a whole can of worms I'm not looking to open in this thread), but the lack of education is a huge problem; it's leaving the rot untreated. And there are multiple vectors of cultural disease which, isolated, aren't a big deal, or wouldn't even be a problem if there was more rigorous understanding or interrogation of the culture itself, like what Jamie is saying with regards media literacy.

    This is a bit long and rambling. Basically I'm saying violent video games are symptomatic, not causal. I think.

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    Exactly right, Pete. We need to teach people to be better consumers of media. And the benefits of that go beyond "don't commit mass shootings" and "don't expect the hot bartender to grab your cock and lead you back into the storage room". It also teaches people to question both media and counter-media, lessening the effect of "fake news". And, it can also make people wary of the excesses of capitalism by teaching people that you can't solve your problems or be happy just by buying more shit. Teaching people skepticism benefits their lives in so many ways.
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    This is fine.

    A teacher who is also a reserve police officer trained in firearm use accidentally discharged a gun Tuesday at Seaside High School in Monterey County, Calif., during a class devoted to public safety. A male student was reported to have sustained non-life-threatening injuries.

    The weapon, which was not described, was pointed at the ceiling, according to a statement from the school, and debris fell from the ceiling.

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    I enjoyed this quote from Fran Lebowitz:

    These people who love Trump and they love guns, these are the most frightened people I have ever seen in my life. Who’s after you? They live in the middle of nowhere. I live in New York city and I don’t have a gun. No one I know has a gun.

    In the early 70s, when I was more vulnerable in every way, it was really dangerous. I could have gotten a gun but I never got one. I was an 18-year-old penniless girl in the middle of a dangerous city and I was never as afraid as these men in Texas, living in a state of terror.

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