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    Star Wars: The All-Encompassing Thread of Threads

    I was going to make a pun about "Return of the Threadi", but....

    So, I'm a crazy Star Wars nerds...love the original trilogy, have read all of the extended universe books, have Many Opinions about the prequels...and I thought we needed a thread. Especially since Episode VII is in development and I would like a place to come and bitch/armchair quarterback about everything regarding it over the next two years.

    Basically, I'm skeptical at this point. I was originally excited when Michael Arndt was writing the script, but as of October he's out and Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan are writing a new script from scratch.

    1) Abrams is not a strong writer, with the exception of early Felicity/early Alias and the first half of Super 8.
    2) Kasdan has done great work over the years, but not recently, and his inclusion at this point seems to me like desperate Empire nostalgia rather than forward-thinking, objective decisions about the best creative direction.
    3) I love Michael Arndt. Somebody leak his script immediately.

    The official statements are that the shakeup happened because they're on a timeframe and Kasdan was going to be "better able to get them where they needed to be, when they needed to be there." lololol bullshit. Arndt's been working on his script for a YEAR, since the original deal announcement at this same time last year, and you're only now concerned about his material? I call J.J. being a geek diva. There were already (unsubstantiated) rumors that Abrams had been unhappy with the production and the script over the summer, which is why details have been scant on the ground all year and why there was nothing to showcase at D23.

    Blargh. This could be SO WONDERFUL, and it probably won't be. >.<
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    At this point nothing can be worse than the prequels. I'm pretty ambivalent about the new sequels, but I'm also pretty confident that at the very least they'll be more enjoyable than the prequels.

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    I've loved SW since I was little, but I was never a crazy fangirl of it. I never read EU stuff and I tend to roll my eyes when the explanation for something comes from the EU. I shouldn't have to read mountains of books just to know what a character's name is.

    Confession: I liked the prequels. I think it's because I wasn't crazy fangirl. Yes, I see how they are not as good as the original trilogy and there are a lot of problems with them, but I also see how similar they are to the original trilogy. There are annoying characters and crazy plot holes and contrivances in the OT too, but I think since most people grew up watching them, the nostalgia factor kicks in and their problems can be overlooked. When we all watched the prequels as adults, the problems jumped right out at us. I think I'd rank them as 6, 4, 5, 3, 1, 2.

    I know, I know. I'm heretical. I like the prequels and Empire's not my favorite.

    I tried watching Clone Wars, but I couldn't get into it.

    I'm assuming everyone has seen the Red Letter Media reviews of the prequels? They are just awesome takedowns of the series as a whole, but I like them because it comes from a frustrated fan point of view, not a "take that, nerds" POV.

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    Coincidentally, I came across this a few minutes later.

    The Actor Inside R2-D2 Is Not a Fan of the Guy in C-3PO


    Kenny Baker was the actor inside R2-D2 in the six Star Wars films. Turns out he doesn’t have a ton of affection for his fellow droid.

    On a number of occasions, Baker described his less than warm feelings for Anthony Daniels, the actor inside C-3PO. In a 2009 interview with Metro he offered the following:

    "I thought it was just me he didn't get on with but recently I've found out he doesn't get on with anyone. He's been such an awkward person over the years. If he just calmed down and socialised with everyone, we could make a fortune touring around making personal appearances. I've asked him four times now but, the last time, he looked down his nose at me like I was a piece of s**t. He said: 'I don't do many of these conventions - go away little man.' He really degraded me and made me feel small - for want of a better expression. He's rude to everyone though, including the fans."

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    The one-hour reviews from Red Letter Media are FANTASTIC. XD
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    i'm really hoping Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill have small parts and they are used for continuity sake. I don't think I could believe that Han Solo can do the stunts that Indiana Jones did in the last IJ movie. I mean Ford isn't young anymore =P

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    Ford has said in the past that he refuses to do Han Solo again because the character is too one-dimensional.

    Like Indy is some deep shit, right? Especially after Crystal Skull. I mean, that's fine if he doesn't want to be a part of it any more, but Han isn't exactly terrible compared to Indy.

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    He was on the tonight show awhile back when the news of the movies hit and he just said he could not comment about anything. I took that as he is involved. It's amazing what you're willing to do when someone pulls out their checkbook.

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    I'm of two minds about the possibility that we'll see old Han, Luke, and Leia. On one hand, it would be interesting to see them in minor/background/mentor roles. On the other hand, it could come across as REALLY cheesy and shoehorned in if it's not done right. And I don't really have a lot of faith that Abrams and Kasdan WILL get it right, so I'm kind of hoping that it's not going to happen. XD And, I don't know...bending over backwards to fit in even a cameo from the three of them feels like misguided nostalgia, and misguided nostalgia is my biggest concern with this whole project because of Abrams. (If anyone cares, I wrote a whole blog/article about it here - http://thedrunkenodyssey.com/2013/11...s-episode-vii/)

    The worst thing they could do is make them all main characters again.
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    I'm actually really tempted to write my own Star Wars script before we get any details about the new movie and see how it compares to what they actually produce. XD
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    The Rice Krispies Mos Eisley


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    That's pretty spiffy!

    Has anyone else read the extended universe books? I'm a fan of Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy, and there was another trilogy called The Black Fleet Crisis that I really liked, too. I re-read the Thrawn books earlier this year and while the writing was much...simpler...than I remembered from reading them as a teenager, the basic ideas and stories and characters still really did it for me. Part of me wishes this "new trilogy" stuff was just an adaptation of those books.

    (But who would play my favorite character, Mara Jade? Christina Hendricks? Jessica Chastain? Jennifer Lawrence with a dye job?)
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    So this is my favorite Robot Chicken sketch, and maybe one of my favorite Star Wars parodies outside of Spaceballs. Every time I giggle.


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    If Carrie Fisher does return as Leia, my dream would be to see her revealed as the new Evil Queen of the Empire.

    Like, she turned to the dark side 20 years ago or something, and now she's more powerful than ever.

    But more than likely, she'll just have a 30-second cameo as some Jedi teacher ...

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