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    Don't forget Flaming Red! I love that album, even though most don't.
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    I've heard she's considering rereleasing Flaming Red but with the tracks remixed more to her original vision. Would kill to hear that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimshala View Post
    I've heard she's considering rereleasing Flaming Red but with the tracks remixed more to her original vision. Would kill to hear that!
    I know fans have asked for it but has she commented on it in any seriousness? I would freaking love that. I love Flaming Red as is, but it falls closer to the bottom of her catalog because of the production. The touring version of the title track deserves a studio recording at least.

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    It would be amazing if they could take the original vocals and pair them with more stripped down arrangements to make it more cohesive with the rest of her catalog. I don't know if she has the voice to tackle songs like "Change," "Wiggley Fingers," and the title track anymore, but in the late 90's she was vocally untouchable. I feel like her voice could do anything it wanted.

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    ^^ The versions of "Goodbye," "Tony," and "Mary" on A Kiss In Time are a good example of the sorts of arrangements I'd hope for on a reworked Flaming Red.

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    I had posted concerns about Patty's voice a while back in this thread, and soon after Patty had sent out a message re: missing some shows due to health problems. Turns out Patty has been battling breast cancer. Hit me like a ton of bricks to read that tonight, and I hope she is doing better! Her music has meant so much to me for nearly 20 years now.

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    Self-titled album out March 8th.

    Tracklist:
    01. Mama’s Worried
    02. River
    03. Where I Come From
    04. Hourglass
    05. Had A Good Reason
    06. Bluebeard
    07. What Now
    08. Luminous Places
    09. Coins
    10. Boys From Tralee
    11. The Wheel
    12. What I Remember
    13. Just The Same

    River

    https://open.spotify.com/track/5YfwL...TcmYhGtaQy-rDQ

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    I love it. Gives me all the feels.
    Anyone care to take a crack at the lyrics?
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    I'm going to hold out for the CD, but the album is streaming now on NPR!

    https://www.npr.org/2019/02/28/69851...ypHX6hCfO9jvTA

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    So are we gonna talk about how “Luminous Places” is the most gorgeous thing she’s ever put to tape?

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    I'm still not over "You Never Asked Me" from SoL. I'm not ready!!!

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    I've listened to the whole thing once. Favorites are River, Where I Come From, Had a Good Reason(!!!), Luminous Places (!!!!!!), Boys From Tralee, and Just the Same. Bluebeard, What Now, Coins, and What I Remember didn't strike me much on the first listen, but they may be growers. Mama's Worried, Hourglass, and The Wheel just fall into the category of Patty songs I just don't care for. The Wheel in particular sounds like four or five other songs she's done in the past decade or so that sound exactly the same (and none of them very good). That ragged, melodiless sort of thing based around a dirty sounding acoustic riff. I'm thinking of songs like "Stay on the Ride," "There Isn't One Way," etc. It's just not for me.

    One the whole this feels like easily her sparest and most scaled-back album yet, and every album since Children Running Through (save the gospel album obviously) seems to have gotten more and more stripped back. Several songs here feel like little to nothing more than acoustic guitar/piano and voice. Her voice sounds very weary and worn, but in an interesting, Emmylou Harris-like way that colors the music in a new way. But mostly this album seems to be about the lyrics, and they feel personal in a way I'm not used to hearing from Patty. There's no explicit "I battled cancer" song, but there are definitely ruminations on transience and mortality that are very powerful. I'm very excited to dig in more to this one and get a better sense of some of these lyrics.

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    The album was doing nothing for me until "Coins" (I'm still on the fence with "Luminous Places." It's a pretty title and I like the line: All that I am is a dream that I had).
    I was getting a little scared this might be her first album I couldn't connect with right away.

    Then, "Coins" til the end I was completely hooked. That's 5 songs?
    Not bad at all, really. I'll end up liking more.

    But can we just talk about "The Wheel." OMG. That song is my jam. Got me moving my hips.

    Here's a song about the rain.
    Coming down in sheets and sheets.
    Water rising over the rooftop, water sinking into the ground.
    Everything that I see around is drifting away or falling down.

    Here's a song about a man..


    Coins is her directly addressing the cancer, right? The way I hear it is that she is talking to the part of her that Will never stop until the war is won. The person in the song is the cancer. Right?

    Thought I was rid of you once. For a couple coins on the table.
    Forgetting that when you left that day you were young and angry and able
    I hoped I had seen the last of you. No more would I feed/fetch a coward
    But when I fed you for a tip that day you were young and hungry for power

    On a beam of sun
    ?????
    You will never stop til the war is won
    I can fill your mind (???) with all the answers?

    History is on your side. Who am I to deny you?
    Thiefdom for your fragile pride who would dare defy you
    Got your oil as a cancer - right down to the Lord and Sun - to the man with all the answers.
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    I didn't get that feeling about "Coins." Sounds to me like a memory of waitressing and getting a tip of a few coins from a rich asshole she waited on. I'm sure it's in its own way a commentary on Trump.

    When I fed you for a tip that day
    You were young and hungry for power

    And a chill came in on a beam of sun
    As natural as a cancer
    You would never stop till all was won
    The young man with all the answers

    ...

    Now history is on your side
    Who am I to deny it?
    A fiefdom for your fragile pride
    and who would dare defy it?


    "Coins" is actually one of my least favorite songs on the album. Two chords and only the barest and simplest of melodies. I can't believe you didn't love "Luminous Places." It's immediately popped into my top 10 Patty songs of all time.

    Wind blows down hard in the night
    With the ghosts of the brave and the damned
    Howling their song, locked in their fight
    Over every inch of this land

    And they say "What is lost will be what is won
    What is done will be done and undone again"
    They say, "Don't you think for a second that you won't become
    One more voice on the wind"


    Gorgeous, and to me this is the song that most directly (which is still pretty indirectly) addresses her feelings of mortality re: the cancer. I know this is going to be made out to be her "cancer" album, but I really find very little of it to be addressing that.

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