Last edited by Beelust; 10-11-2016 at 08:09 AM.
Robbing the muse...
Last edited by datura1452; 10-11-2016 at 09:02 AM.
The thing is: Mark was involved with Choirgirl and Pele and Venus too. And Scarlet. So....what happened along the way? Listen, I am no Mark Hawley fan, and I think he's been a negative. But RG and others are right: Tori is the one calling the shots. Her crappier output is on HER. I think it's very difficult to maintain the sort of output she was doing in the 90s, and she's stumbled a bit. But 2011-now has been mostly decent, with moments of brilliance. For an artist in her 50s, we can't really expect more than that. Anyone who thinks she's suddenly going to reinvent the wheel is kidding themselves. I hope for an album that has songs that move me the way a few on UG did. The rest is gravy. I don't know why her aesthetic changed and obviously wish it hadn't, but from Scarlet on there was a shift for her in the sort of music she was interested in making.
At least she's not acting the way she did in 2009 - that bothered me almost more than the music, and it was a time I couldn't bear to even go to a concert. Sad days.
I think I said this somewhere else - I've started to think of Tori like I think of Bruce Springsteen - brilliant brilliant early career, mid-career the work got a little dodgy, and the later work is hit or miss but still an untouchable live show. I think its actually a more apt comparison than PJ or Bjork or Kate Bush, who do, and have always done, very different work than Tori has done.
I'm guessing a piano-only release will forever be unlikely. I'll still be keeping my hopes up knowing she still has it in her.
Past a shooting star
I don't mind Mark's acoustic guitar. At all. I actually think it adds a certain warmth to the music. I just hate hate hate when they go "experimental". 16 Shades of Blue, Rose Dover, first part of Unrepentant Geraldines... all sound like a child was learning how to produce and add effects.
Piano and strings are all I need. Some acoustic guitar is nice too. That's it.
Не може со обични зборови да ја домами необичноста, зашто и необичните си имаат секој свој пат и тешко се среќаваат.
^I actually quite like Mark's acoustic guitar too. Love the guitar in Ruby.
Though strangely his best work is the electric guitar in ICSNY imo.
On a side note, if find 16 shades of blue quite good, even the production. Not experimental at all, but successful.
Last edited by Carey; 10-12-2016 at 09:26 AM.
"If neurotic is wanting two mutually exclusive things at one and the same time, then I'm neurotic as hell. I'll be flying back and forth between one mutually exclusive thing and another for the rest of my days."
I honestly don't see her ever leaving the Amos family band. Her husband means too much to her, and she would never do anything to remotely hurt his feelings.
I mean, if your husband was a dentist, and you told him you wanted to try going to someone else to fill a cavity, it would undoubtedly hurt a little, especially after you've been getting cavity after cavity filled by him. Sure, she can be as diplomatic as possible, but at the very least it might create an awkward atmosphere at home.
It's also probably a big bonding experience for them, and reaffirms their shared emotional connection. She's just gonna suddenly tell him to stay home while she's in the studio? I can't ever see that happening. Ever.
Living in my own personal Cornwall bubble
I have this feeling there's gonna be a song called 'Locker Room Talk' on this album.
I expect to see a sea of these at whatever show I go to next tour.
I do think we got a break from Mark with the classical stuff and the musical.
I'm going to support Tori, regardless. But it would be nice to have a studio album where maybe even she isn't in control of the production. I think that is why I tend to like pop artists and a whole heck of a lot of rnb singers that may have every track produced by someone new. But even then I don't always think those songs are well written lyrically. But it doesn't take a great rhyme or play on words to sing a beautiful note.
I got so much flavor put me on the buffet.
The Landslide Never Brought, Brought Me Down