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Thread: How Low Can We Go? The President Donald Trump Thread, I guess. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles View Post
    I was dating a girl who recently moved here, who's on Medicaid (for her daughter). She's a server and works full time, but hasn't been able to get a good bartending gig, so she's not making that much. On a good day, maybe $80. Her child care for the day is $40. She does Uber eats when tips are bad and she can't find a sitter. I've been babysitting a night or two and she drives an hour each way to drop her daughter off at her mom's place. She applied for child care vouchers...but was denied cause she made too much. WTF?? She's somewhat lucky to have family and friends around, but a lot of people don't. It just pisses me off when people assume that everyone who needs help is a drug taking, Cadillac driving, iphone having, jobless minority. Honestly, I think one major reason people lie and commit fraud to get assistance is cause they legit need it and it's already too damn hard to get.
    I'm not sure who comes up with the numbers for qualifying, but surely someone is just pulling them out of their ass. Growing up, my family was always too poor to afford things, but juuuuuuuuust over the threshold, literally often by $50-100, so couldn't get assistance. And I think, like voter fraud, Medicaid/Medicare fraud among patients is very rare. It has to be. I have to jump through so many hoops to keep it, they might as well ask for my first born.

    And fuck this orange motherfucker so much. Not racist, surely!

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    While the reactions have been highly entertaining, I'm not understanding the outrage. It's not exactly surprising. Don't get me wrong: he's a racist fuckstick, but we knew this already, so why is everyone going for the smelling salts?


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    Rachel Maddow said something I haven't heard from anyone, particularly any other liberal: "The esteem of the presidency is gone. It might come back in future generations but it went away with us."

    That's the malaise I floated in for months and months. As much as we've hated any president, even W., there has always been this idea of a president and a first lady. There is a great deal of respect even if only partisan respect.

    Donald Trump is a backwater, freakshow. He has followers and fans.. not constituents and party members.
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    Really, there was a sense today that Trump had gone even farther than before. People weren’t just angry; they were depressed. I honestly didn’t feel better until Jessica Chastain announced that she was hosting SNL on 1/20.

    It was interesting to see how many media peeps actually said “shithole”. Rachel Maddow really didn’t want to say it, but she did, once. Joy Reid said it a couple of times during an intro when she talked about how her parents were immigrants from “shithole” countries. She was understandably seething. And Laurence O’Donnell said it a few times. I was looking forward to his show because he often starts shows with vicious and beautifully written rants. He didn’t disappoint. And, for whatever reason, the chyrons on MSNBC were uncensored throughout. Somehow, there was the sense that he actually had gone farther than usual, and there was a kind of furious resignation to it.
    At my core, I think we're gonna be OK.

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    Great, Trump installed an absolute idiot as ambassador over here. Watch him LOOLLL lose face in front of the entire Netherlands.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.422f25baaf15
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    A measure of levity, as it's Friday.


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    Donald Trump calls off visit to London amid fears of mass protests
    Donald Trump has cancelled a visit to Britain next month to open the new US embassy in London amid fears of mass protests.

    The American president claimed on Twitter that his reason for calling off the trip was his displeasure at Barack Obama having sold the current embassy for “peanuts” and built a replacement for $1.2bn. “Bad deal,” he wrote.
    LOL! I was looking forward to welcoming him!

    ETA:

    Last edited by beanstew; 01-12-2018 at 08:57 AM.
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    I'm starting to think the reason this is a big deal just because it gives people the opportunity to say "shit" on the air. Robert Seigel retired on Friday and I read the joke "Oh, we JUST missed getting to hear him say it on the air!" It's reminding me of my 2nd favorite episode of South Park.




    I finished Fire and Fury last night. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but losing Bannon might have actually hurt Trump. That's one of the takeaways. Not because he's not an incompetent racist asshole, but because the remaining people are awful too and it sounds like some of the worst ideas were theirs. He had terrible ideas too, but when you don't have opposition, you get your way unimpeded. It also made a good point that Bannon probably had nothing to do with any Russian collusion and all the remaining people might get the spotlight. I'm glad he's gone, and maybe the things in the book that show him saying "No, don't do it that way" aren't true, but maybe he did so some minor counterbalance to the even less experienced Jared and Ivanka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve SFM View Post
    Really, there was a sense today that Trump had gone even farther than before. People weren’t just angry; they were depressed. I honestly didn’t feel better until Jessica Chastain announced that she was hosting SNL on 1/20.

    It was interesting to see how many media peeps actually said “shithole”. Rachel Maddow really didn’t want to say it, but she did, once. Joy Reid said it a couple of times during an intro when she talked about how her parents were immigrants from “shithole” countries. She was understandably seething. And Laurence O’Donnell said it a few times. I was looking forward to his show because he often starts shows with vicious and beautifully written rants. He didn’t disappoint. And, for whatever reason, the chyrons on MSNBC were uncensored throughout. Somehow, there was the sense that he actually had gone farther than usual, and there was a kind of furious resignation to it.
    Jake Tapper said it like 40 times. But nobody said it as vitriolically as Laurence O'Donnell.

    I was riding high on the comedy of grown men and women relishing in saying "shithole" on TV, but now my morning was ruined by Facebook comments I saw on the pages of friends of my friends (because none of my own friends would dare). They (still) completely don't care that the President is an awful racist. I saw three different posts follow the exact same pattern: 1) blame Obama, 2) bring up Hillary for some reason and 3) say "at least someone is finally caring about America for once". It's exactly what White House insiders were allegedly predicting last night - all his most awful behavior does is energize his awful base.

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    Tweet for everything alert:



    (firefox still being a dink so here's the quote for anyone else)

    @realDonaldTrump
    "@Sebuliba: "@Forbes: Ugandan mogul Ashish Thakkar says that Donald Trump is ignorant about Africa" Wrong, if anything it's worse than I say
    4:28 AM · Jul 3, 2013

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    I'm debating legally changing my name to "I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO."

    Trump’s history of breaking decorum with remarks on race, ethnicity

    A career intelligence analyst who is an expert in hostage policy stood before President Donald Trump in the Oval Office last fall to brief him on the impending release of a family long held in Pakistan under uncertain circumstances.

    It was her first time meeting the president, and when she was done briefing, he had a question for her.

    "Where are you from?" the president asked, according to two officials with direct knowledge of the exchange.

    New York, she replied.

    Trump was unsatisfied and asked again, the officials said. Referring to the president's hometown, she offered that she, too, was from Manhattan. But that's not what the president was after.

    He wanted to know where "your people" are from, according to the officials, who spoke under condition of anonymity due to the nature of the internal discussions.

    After the analyst revealed that her parents are Korean, Trump turned to an adviser in the room and seemed to suggest her ethnicity should determine her career path, asking why the "pretty Korean lady" isn't negotiating with North Korea on his administration's behalf, the officials said.

    ...

    A source close to the president told NBC News "he frequently uses that kind of language," and added that those around Trump frequently tell him he should not.

    ...

    At a March meeting with members of the Congressional Black Caucus, Trump asked the elected officials if they knew just one member of his incoming cabinet — Ben Carson — according to two people in the room.

    Carson, the only black member of Trump's Cabinet, had never served in Congress and spent his career as a surgeon. None of the lawmakers knew Carson, and Trump found that surprising, the attendees said.

    During that same meeting, a member relayed to Trump that potential welfare cuts would harm her constituents, "not all of whom are black." The president replied, "Really? Then what are they?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Jake Tapper said it like 40 times. But nobody said it as vitriolically as Laurence O'Donnell.

    I was riding high on the comedy of grown men and women relishing in saying "shithole" on TV, but now my morning was ruined by Facebook comments I saw on the pages of friends of my friends (because none of my own friends would dare). They (still) completely don't care that the President is an awful racist. I saw three different posts follow the exact same pattern: 1) blame Obama, 2) bring up Hillary for some reason and 3) say "at least someone is finally caring about America for once". It's exactly what White House insiders were allegedly predicting last night - all his most awful behavior does is energize his awful base.
    Saw the very same things myself. Especially #3. You forgot: 4) Show respect for the office and 5) the people elected him so it must be what America wants.

    People pointed out the idiocy of those statements. I mostly refrained. If they're still supporting him at this point, they're lost causes. A Trumpeter said he'd lose her support if he was ever caught in an outright lie and I did have to comment, "Pick one." If his mouth is moving, it a lie.
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    I know this is its own level of horrifying incompetence, but I laughed. White House struggles with muting function for 22 minutes on Iran conference call with reporters


    It took the White House 22 minutes to figure out how to enable the "listening only" feature on a conference call on Thursday in which senior administration officials announced that President Trump would continue to waive nuclear program-related sanctions, keeping the deal intact.

    "This White House can't even run a f*cking conference call," a reporter on an unmuted phone line angrily exclaimed to the entire call. "They don't know how to mute their line."

    "It's the illegitimate media that doesn't know how to conduct themselves. They can't mute their f*cking phones," an unidentified official said. "Mute your phones."

    Another White House official repeatedly attempted to quiet the noisy line "so the people in charge" could talk.

    "I think if everyone had half a brain and common sense and muted their phones, this wouldn't be a problem," she yelled in an apparent fit of frustration.

    "Hello? Hello?," one reporter interjected, some 15 minutes after the slated start of the call. "Has the call started?"

    "This is Kim Jong Un calling for Donald Trump," another reporter joked as tensions flared.

    "All participants are now in listen-only mode," the operator finally announced, much to the relief of everyone on the call. The call began at 1:07 p.m.

    A State Department official announced at the end of the call that the technical difficulties prevented the senior administration officials from taking any questions from reporters.

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    A story from WSJ today says that Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, had a porn star sign an NDA and paid her $30,000 a month before the election to keep quiet about a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 (he married Melania in 2005).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post


    A story from WSJ today says that Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, had a porn star sign an NDA and paid her $30,000 a month before the election to keep quiet about a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006 (he married Melania in 2005).
    It was actually $130,000 a month!

    They're denying it away, per usual. Nothing matters.

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