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    And in the evening it's. . . Andrea's Avatar
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    Anyone seen the new HBO documetary 12th and Delaware?

    It's on right now, and my blood is boiling and running cold at the same time. It's fucked up and scary.

    Lots of stuff on youtube, but I can't figure out how the imbedding works.

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    "My boyfriend is abusive."
    "Who knows? The baby might change him."

    *sigh* I can't watch.

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    And in the evening it's. . . Andrea's Avatar
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    I swear to bob, this makes me want to go be an escort at a clinic.

    "I know women who had abortions and were never able to have a baby again. The only mother they'll ever be is the mother of a dead baby."

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    "I know women who had abortions and were never able to have a baby again. The only mother they'll ever be is the mother of a dead baby."
    Unless they already had kids.

    Also, has there ever, in the history of the world, been a case of a man or woman who abuses their partner and then changes after they became a parent?

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    Like as in they change to a new partner? And continue the abuse with them? Seems likely.

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    Excellent news!

    5-Day Emergency Contraceptive 'Ella' Approved By FDA

    WASHINGTON — Federal health officials on Friday approved a new type of morning-after contraceptive that works longer than the current leading drug on the market.

    The pill ella from HRA Pharma reduces the chance of pregnancy up to five days after sex. Plan B, the most widely used emergency contraceptive pill, begins losing its ability to prevent pregnancy within three days of sex.

    The Food and Drug Administration approved the drug Friday as a prescription-only birth control option. The ruling clears the way for U.S. sales of the drug, which is already approved in Europe.

    Morristown, N.J.-based Watson Pharmaceuticals will market the drug in the U.S. under an agreement with HRA. Watson said it will launch the pill in the fourth quarter.

    Studies of ella by its manufacturer showed the drug prevented pregnancies longer and more consistently than Plan B.

    In a head-to-head trial between the two drugs, women who took ella had a 1.8 percent chance of becoming pregnant, while women who took Plan B had a 2.6 percent chance. Experts tracked nearly 1,700 women who randomly received one of the two pills within three to five days of having unprotected sex.

    Plan B is made by Teva Pharmaceuticals and is also marketed in several generic versions. Unlike ella, Plan B and other generic versions are available without a prescription for women 17 years and older.

    HRA Pharma did not request over-the-counter status for its drug.

    Ella uses the hormone progesterone to delay ovulation, a key step in the fertilization process.

    Despite this, the drug has drawn criticism from anti-abortion groups who say it is closer to an abortion pill than an emergency contraception pill.

    Groups including the Family Research Council argue the drug is chemically similar to the abortion drug mifeprestone, which can be taken to end a pregnancy up to 50 days into the gestation period. That drug has been associated with severe infections and bleeding after abortion. However, FDA reviewers reported no life-threatening medical side effects with ella.

    The most common side effects with the drug included headache, nausea and abdominal pain, according to an FDA release.

    Abortion rights groups hailed the approval as an important step for the FDA, which was criticized in 2006 for its handling of Plan B's approval.

    Last year a federal judge ruled that the FDA deliberately delayed making a decision on whether to permit over-the-counter sales of Plan B to teenage girls, at the behest of the Bush administration.

    "Approval of ella is another indication that the FDA is committed to restoring scientific integrity in its decisions," said Kirsten Moore, president of the advocacy group Reproductive Health Technologies Project.

    Privately held HRA Pharma is based in Paris and specializes in women's health products.

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    Wonderful! I was kind of confused about how to go about acquiring the Plan B pill, since it wasnt something stocked next to the tylenol. I just asked a pharmacist for it when I needed it and she handed it right over.
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    Fantastic.

    Some anti-choice protesters station themselves at clinic entrances to yell at and shame vulnerable patients. But recently, a husband decided to fight back.

    In an essay for the Good Men Project, Aaron Gouveia explains that he and his wife sought an abortion when they found out their fetus had no bladder, no kidneys, and "zero chance for survival." But when they arrived at the clinic, anti-choice protesters "yelled at me and my wife on the worst day of our lives." So Gouveia took matters into his own hands, literally — he got out his cell phone and taped himself confronting them.

    There's a special awfulness to being told "You're killing your unborn baby" when you know the fetus you're carrying could never survive outside the womb — but the tactics of clinic protesters are just as invasive for women whose abortions aren't for medical reasons. The women Gouveia taped claim to be concerned about women's mental health — one mentions a link between abortion and suicide — but as Gouveia points out, they don't seem to be all that concerned with the pain they're causing. They clearly hope to guilt people out of having abortions, but rather than letting them have the last word, Gouveia stood up for himself and his wife and showed they have nothing to feel guilty about. In a world where the voices of anti-choicers often silence those who have had abortions, his message is a powerful one.



    Read more: http://jezebel.com/5672924/husband-s...#ixzz13VFfbFsW

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    I wish there were more instances like this, where it's clearly evident why there's a need for abortion . Maybe the anti-choice protesters would get this through their thick skulls, eventually.

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    I wish someone had filmed me with fetus-in-a-jar lady when my best friend had her abortion. I really do. I am NOT a confrontational person, but I went MOTHERFUCKING APESHIT.

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    Angry Never get your abortion in Oklahoma!

    http://theweek.com/article/index/202...-abortion-laws


    Provoking pro-choice advocates, Oklahoma has passed into law two highly restrictive abortion measures. One requires doctors to show women an ultrasound of their fetus and point out its physical characteristicseven if the patient was impregnated through rape or incest.

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    Point out its physical characteristics? Like, here's it's wittle nosey-wosey, here's its tiny penis? OMG, it looks like your daddy/rapist, ain't that sweet?

    For fuck's sake. Why not drop the passive-aggressive emotional blackmail thing and just go straight to screaming OMG U BITCH IT'S A HUMAN BEEEEEN INSIDE YOU YOU HEARTLESS WENCH DON'T BE A KILLAH I HATE U!

    Personally, I've never seen an ultrasound that look like anything more than a blob or maybe a fuzzy tumour-looking thing, so I don't quite get the whole impact of 'this white fuzzy blob here is its head' and would be all 'how incredibly fucking fascinating, now rip it out and stamp on it to make sure its proper dead' but I'm sure some women would be either traumatised or coerced into backing out of the procedure by whichever sanctimonious nurse was in charge of wittering copiously about bay-bees for a living.

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    Yeah and the fucking idiots who voted for this crap are the same ones who are all "anti-tax" and "anti-gubment!" Uh, who the fuck do they think is paying for all these mandatory ultrasounds? Not the broke-ass teenagers being forced to have them! Nice work Oklahoma!
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    ^not only that but if youre genuinely anti-over reaching government, youd probably support them keeping out of one's uterus.

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    Unreal. As if making that kind of decision isn't hard enough, you have to be emotionally blackmailed and given a vaginal ultrasound? Nice.

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