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    Find a way to get in the way. MTC's Avatar
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    Remember the It's fetus-humping terrorist time again thread?

    http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?t=311620&page=24

    The ball for the Oklahoma issue started around April.
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    Well guess what Mimi, WE DID. Octopussy's Avatar
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    Wasn't the only doctor in that little hovel of a state who actually performed abortions brutally murdered by terrorists? George Tiller? Or was that Nebraska?

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    Dr. Tiller practiced in Wichita, Kansas.

    My guess is that he would have done civil disobedience if given this horrific requirement. So should any medical profession who gives a shit about the Hippocratic Oath, not to mention simple human decency.

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    And you know, what about this whole "no big government" thing? Oh, the DEMS make too many laws, make government too big, waste taxpayer money on stupid things, don't let people do what they want, create a nanny state... so if philosophically you don't want government to be big, why are you pushing laws that intrude upon medical care? Big government is bad when you want to avoid paying taxes or minimum wage or buy a gazillion guns, but big government is good when you want to interfere with a WOMAN's medical care or teh gheys getting married.

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    I don't know if they do the ultrasound thing in south dakota, but they DO make you verbally acknowledge that you are terminating a human life when getting an abortion- it's a more detailed speech than that, but that's the gist of it. They also take a good amount of personal information, presumably because they anticipate using it against you later (yeah, that's really gonna fly with the courts even if, god forbid, roe v wade is struck down).

    South Dakota has an abortionist fly in something like once a month and even that handful of abortions that must take place at that time is just OMG UNFORGIVABLE.

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    WTF?

    Coming from somebody that looks at fetuses all day, how can a state government mandate a medical procedure be completed before a d&c? If one of my clients wants to refuse an endovaginal examination, that's her right, but it seems that OK has taken away that right from women having an elective AB. How is this ethical?

    And yes, as Roxy said, who is paying for all these unnecessary ultrasounds? The same people that voted these idiots into office.

    I feel for those at this crossroads in Oklahoma.

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    I think anyone who decides to carry a fetus to term should be required to watch a video of a vag-splosion, followed by a forced-listen of an hour-long MP3 of "Mom!? Mom!? MOM! MOM! MOMMY!! I WANT APPLE JUICE! MOM!! MOMMMMMM!"

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    It just might slow the rate of unplanned pregnancies.

    Showing graphic images of just how big and bad the worst stretch marks can be to teen girls just starting to feel sexy would probably help too. God, you've got to REALLY KNOW you want a kid to be willing to risk what can happen to your body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairn View Post
    It just might slow the rate of unplanned pregnancies.

    Showing graphic images of just how big and bad the worst stretch marks can be to teen girls just starting to feel sexy would probably help too. God, you've got to REALLY KNOW you want a kid to be willing to risk what can happen to your body.
    This! or being required to change a dirty diaper before getting pregnant.

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    The St. Paul, Minn. city attorney will not press charges against Tom Hackbarth, a Republican state representative who was handcuffed by police last month after they found him lurking outside a Planned Parenthood with a gun strapped to his hip.
    Insanity.

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem...utside_pla.php

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    Irish abortion laws developments:

    European court to rule on Irish abortion laws

    THE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights will next week issue a ruling on whether Ireland’s restrictions on abortion violate women’s human rights.

    The ruling, which could have significant implications for Irish abortion law, is based on a case taken by three women in Ireland who say their health was put at risk by being forced to go abroad for abortions.

    read the full article

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    Wow. Keep us updated when the ruling comes in, ebby.

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    I know this is a rather serious thread and all ....

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/abornaments?ref=seller_info
    Taking the bore out of abortion

    Proceeds go to a pro choice family planning organization.
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    One of the three women taking the case against the Irish Government to the ECHR won! The other two had their cases dismissed, but the third woman winning her case means the Irish Government must legislate for abortion.

    Interestingly this ruling affects all 47 countries that are in the jurisdiction of the ECHR, so any of the other European countries that currently prohibit abortion will be affected by this ruling too.


    Ireland must legislate for abortion following European court ruling

    THE IRISH GOVERNMENT will be forced to introduce new legislation permitting abortion in certain circumstances following a landmark ruling of the European Court of Human Rights this morning.

    Ruling in the case of A, B and C versus Ireland, the court – which has legally binding status on the 47 countries over which it has jurisdiction – ruled that the rights of woman C, who was unable to seek an abortion in the UK because she was undergoing chemotherapy at the time, were breached by the restrictions on abortion within Ireland.

    Woman C, having been unable to find a doctor in Ireland who could confidently state her pregnancy posed a danger to her own life, had tried to have an abortion in the UK, but was unable to do so.

    Because she had sought to have her abortion within eight weeks of conception, she would have had to undergo a medical abortion, where drugs are administered to induce miscarriage.

    She could not find a doctor in the UK who would give her that procedure, however, because of the need for medical follow-up. Instead, she was forced to wait for eight weeks – until she was able to undergo a surgical abortion.


    In the meantime, she had been under great emotional distress and had feared for her health, and when she returned home, she suffered the complications of an incomplete abortion which included prolonged bleeding and some infection.

    The requirement of the women to travel abroad to have the abortions carried out was “a significant psychological burden on each applicant,” the court ruled.

    The court had ruled that the Irish restrictions on abortion – which currently, following the Supreme Court ruling of the X Case, meant she could only undergo one if a doctor was prepared to declare a danger to her health – were a violation of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which gives any person “the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence”.

    That article also guarantees a person the right not to have “interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right”.

    The court said that the provisions of Article 13, which said any breach of rights should have a remedy within a country’s courts, had not been given by the Irish state.

    The binding ruling means that the Irish government is now compelled to introduce legislation allowing abortion in circumstances similar to those of Woman C – essentially legislating for the findings of the X Case from 1992, which has not been done to date.

    The ruling may also have implications for the other 46 countries under the ECHR’s jurisdiction, which may now have to introduce similar measures in cases where they also prohibit abortions.

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    Fantastic news. I wonder what the circumstances will be on the legislation. Will it only be for women with underlining medical issues?

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