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    This one is so special and I can not stop listening to it. It manages to be both incredibly vulnerable and totally resolute at the the same time. I'm in awe.

    I also think it's some of the best production on the album; the strings, the twinkly sounds. It creates its own special atmosphere.

    I'll doubt we'll ever hear this one live, which is both a total loss but also I'm not sure I'd want her to push herself through this on stage.

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    it's my favorite closer since "gold dust."

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    The 'death midlife' lyric that's written but not sung definitely expands the narrative interp of this song. Let us not forget that Tori is also actually a Mary, as is her sister (Myra and Marie both being forms of Mary). Tori talked about that being one of the reasons she wanted to change her name when she was young.

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    Wow - the lyrics of this song just registered in my brain. My god. What a song for Tori. Very different for her, to me. Quite epic. I don't hear it Disney. It's so lovely.

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    The time changes in the solo piano sections add to the tension and give the song a subversive urgency, the desire to reach through and bring Mary back to herself. So heartbreaking.

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    I don't hear anything twee or Disney or schmaltzy here. I hear one of her most truly beautiful songs. I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen View Post
    So heartbreaking.
    You're so right @Owen. It is *so* heartbreaking. And lovely. This song is amazing.

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    When she sings "we must get her to Joy To The World" am I right in thinking she is almost begging her mother's soul to hold on until Christmas time because the carols and hymns always brought her happiness and are "the key"?

    This song makes my heart just ache.
    They say you were something in those formative years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littlegreen View Post
    When she sings "we must get her to Joy To The World" am I right in thinking she is almost begging her mother's soul to hold on until Christmas time because the carols and hymns always brought her happiness and are "the key"?

    This song makes my heart just ache.
    You are so right! Thanks for sharing.

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    besides Reindeer King, do you think there's also a connection to Bang ?

    "hymns for us to sing" < - > "then the heavens opened / and then I heard voices ..."
    "patterns matter / stringing sequences together ..." < - > listing the elements in Bang

    It's like a thread that goes from Reindeer King to Bang to Mary's Eyes

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    This has really grown on me. It took a little while for it to unfold, but it's such an amazing song. I think because I was expecting this slow ballad a la 1000 Oceans and this wasn't it. But the tempo doesn't detract from the powerful lyrics.

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    I still can't really get into this, maybe on purpose because it's reminding me a lot of my mother and her illness. I'm guessing it will hit me like a ton of bricks someday the way Invisible Boy and Breakaway did.

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    I find the structure of this song fascinating. I often get lost listening to it and forget where I am in the song / how long I have been listening (kind of like Reindeer King & Bang & Climb & Wildwood & Bats). This album is hypnotic. Then after "what's being Mary's eyes?" suddenly the song ends in a questioning "Mary?" that is quite drawn out... the last note does not want to end. It really is heartbreaking. There is much hope in the song with "She's a believer / I'm a believer" and then it fades out beautifully / paying tribute to her mother and Tori perhaps accepting that her mother is fading out of this world.
    Last edited by Beelust; 09-29-2017 at 04:53 AM.
    Robbing the muse...

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    I think it's a beautiful song. The beginning reminds me of Star Whisperer (the part before Then I heard you scream..) and I also hear some Winters Carol-influence on it, but more in atmosphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshi View Post
    besides Reindeer King, do you think there's also a connection to Bang ?


    "patterns matter / stringing sequences together ..." < - > listing the elements in Bang
    Very much so. The thing about interacting with someone who has had a stroke is that it confronts you unequivocally with the fact that the human being you know is actually the product of a series of organic processes working in harmony. We all know this, but when you are confronted with the effects of that harmony being disrupted, particularly by a neurological event, it brings you into a really acute awareness of it. The person you love and know so well has been altered organically. The crucial importance of all those patterns and sequences working together suddenly hits you in a big way.

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