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Thread: Setlist and Reviews for Irving, TX 16/11/2017

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    it's a long long climb Kari's Avatar
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    I think, as far as her voice goes, we need to trust that Tori is a professional and knows what she is doing. I would be much more concerned if she were insisting on trying to hit high notes, which she's really not. She's singing in a way I think she knows is sustainable until she feels better and can get her range back. I know musical theater actors and they will be sick af but as long as they are on vocal rest when not performing, they can get through it. It's clear she's had vocal training (notice how her hand shoots up when she hits the high notes - that's a sign of professional training for sure). I think she's making smart choices and it gives her a way to play around with her back catalog too.

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    Yeah if you're having issues with your voice, doing that TIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT thing probably isn't the best of ideas. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by the new prosecutor View Post
    Apologies to those who really wanted to hear Iieee and RK, but I'm quite pleased to see how much she's been mixing things up the last few nights. Those are both great songs, but I've never been sold on them as the only tour staples.
    Me either. I really don't like iieee as the opener (if only by comparison to Parasol, which was a BREATHTAKING opener every single night, and felt so much more inspired to me.) If there was only going to be one NI staple, it should be Broken Arrow. I don't know what she could do with it solo, but it's really the narrative centerpiece of the album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grapefruit_is_winning View Post
    Me either. I really don't like iieee as the opener (if only by comparison to Parasol, which was a BREATHTAKING opener every single night, and felt so much more inspired to me.) If there was only going to be one NI staple, it should be Broken Arrow. I don't know what she could do with it solo, but it's really the narrative centerpiece of the album.
    Agreed. This is hard to explain, but I almost feel that the guardrails of iieee and RK are actively working against the atmosphere that she's trying to create on a lot of nights. I feel like Broken Arrow/Pancake as staples would mesh so much better with a lot of these sets. I realize this is totally subjective though, so I'm going to stop talking now

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    Quote Originally Posted by halo eighteen View Post
    Yeah if you're having issues with your voice, doing that TIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT thing probably isn't the best of ideas. :/
    I was listening on the Periscope, and when she did that, I was like "WTF? Tori, honey, get to a doctor and please don't make that sound again."

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    Subjective perhaps, but you are SO FUCKING RIGHT!

    Case closed! (get it?!)

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    Y’all suck, I love the two staple songs for this tour where they are and how they are
    'Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken. Therein lies hope; therein lies freedom.

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    No YOU suck @Faust. Neener neener!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessy View Post
    i love TIYH i could have it at every show and not tire of it.

    though i didn't get it this tour.
    I'm so very spoiled- for me TIYH hit its peak with just her and Caton way back in 96

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    That’s my favorite iteration too, @NightHunter
    'Tis better to bend with the wind than stand tall and be broken. Therein lies hope; therein lies freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    All these years of listening to her try to hit high notes and wondering why wouldn't just use her chest voice, and these shows just show the potential in keying her songs down into a range that's comfortable for her. She doesn't have to do it on every song but these last two shows have proven that some songs REALLY benefit from it.
    I've been wondering if maybe those unfortunate circumstances might get her thinking about altering the keys more in the future. There is no other way for her to perform right now, so hopefully those enforced changes initiate some sort of reapproach to her singing. As you rightfully said, there is no need to transpose every song from the catalogue. She does nail a lot of the high register repertoire without sounding off. In a lot of cases, unfortunately, the straining and whispering exceeds dramatic effect and exposes the vocal performance for what it truly is is: misplaced and overchallanged. While her voice still sounds pretty much under the weather right now, I can't help but notice how authentic, credible and – most importantly – beautiful she sounds when using her lower register. Properly rested, I'm sure she'd leave us with her jaws to the floor if she began to use her voice more thoroughly like that. "Russia" sounded wonderful as did the rest of the songs she had to transpose.

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    Yes, exactly - when she's in her lower register I can hear no struggle in her voice. This Honey for example is miles better than the one from Boston where she tried to reach these 'heeeees' high notes. It's not 2001 anymore and personally, I don't expect it to be.

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    Yes! I'm in. It just fits so well with who she is now, not trying to be and repeat someting that she was a long time ago. Just be more relaxed and not having to prove something. I love that MMF.

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