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    Quote Originally Posted by SloppyJane View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question, but how do you murder someone who's in jail?
    Same as outside, given the type of person who'd murder a prisoner: MONEY. Lots of money to the right people. A paid-off guard lets someone into the cell and... oops. Pay someone to make any tapes disappear. I mean, how do you make a murder look like a suicide on the outside? Strangle them and then fake hang them, right? But now you have to be a bit more careful and spend more money.

    I'm not saying that's what happened here, but it's not like he was truly alone alone.

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    This fucking guy. I forgot about him



    I hope the suit is successful, but against this "church" they never are.

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    In this story, Maria and Annie Farmer confirmed to me for the first time that they spoke of their experiences on the record to Vanity Fair. Their account was cut from the story.

    You also hear the voice of Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who was interviewed 4+ years ago by ABC NEWS. The network tells NPR it will broadcast the fruits of its investigation in coming months.

    Miami Herald's @juliekbrown deserves admiration for breaking the larger story wide open.

    And Daily Beast's @kbriquelet has reported on this for years, along with colleagues at the high minded tabloid.

    Yet much of press covered Epstein episodically and salaciously.

    As both reporters told me, the Epstein scandal is fundamentally about power - its deployment and misuses as in #metoo, which changed how newsrooms handled accusers. Though not always.

    Jeffrey Epstein served up tips for then NYT reporter Landon Thomas and charmed him into feeling they had something of a friendship. Epstein donated $30K at Thomas's request. His dinner party drew Stephanopoulos Couric & Rose. Epstein had confidence he could keep the press at bay.

    Maria and Annie Farmer on being dropped from VF piece in 2003: "It was terribly painful. We hoped the story would put people on notice and they would be stopped from abusing other young girls and young women. That didn't happen. In the end, the story that ran erased our voices."

    Virginia Roberts Giuffre on ABC sitting on her interview for four years: "I was defeated, once again, by the very people I spoke out against and once again, my voice was silenced. I could not believe that a formidable network like ABC had backed down and given in."

    The magazine and the network cite journalistic standards and, in VF's case, legal concerns, for their decisions. All newsrooms must take such concerns seriously. And numerous editors note changes in the landscape wrought by #metoo
    on how credibility of allegations is assessed.

    Taken together, these episodes may help explain how stories did not get more circulation and credence.
    I'm not sure what to make of Graydon Carter falling short in reporting on this back in the day. On the one hand, he hates Trump and really supported Dominick Dunne, a personal favorite. On the other, he buried the story's lede... but also had some compelling reasons.

    Soon after publication, Connolly says, Carter called to share an ominous development: a bullet placed right outside his front door at his Manhattan home.

    "That wasn't a coincidence," Connolly says.

    ...

    As Connolly pursued interviews with women who had worked for Epstein, he says, Carter called him once more. The editor had found another intrusion, this time in the front yard of his Connecticut home: the severed head of a dead cat.

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    There had been some rumors he was trying to stage a comeback and I really hope no one gives it to him. I mean, the last round of allegations should have done it, but maybe this will be the final straw. He's got money. He can go retire.



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    Harvey guilty on two counts.

    Considering everything else is shit this week, at least there's that little bit, even if it wasn't all counts.

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    The best thing about the convictions they did get was that they completely blow to shit the notion that if you had friendly relations with your rapist after the rape, or if you had consensual sex with your rapist (before or after the rape), you somehow weren't raped. This jury said fuck that. Good for them.

    The bad thing was...well, we're trying to get this trending on Twitter.

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    You are not burdening anyone who truly cares about you, by telling someone you feel scared by this. It is scary. Don’t try and be a hero, just be fucking afraid and tell someone. Jessica Barden

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    It's disappointing when it's people you like but at least the unaccused creepers out there can never have a good night's sleep because people are still coming forward

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    Woah. But an even bigger woah just happened.

    Chris Matthews just resigned on air, without warning. And Hardball kinda dissolved, in that moment. After the break, they came back to a stunned Steve Kornacki, who had to fill the rest of the hour.

    Matthews was #MeToo-d last week. (Not Weinstein-level -- this was for harassment and unwanted flirting -- but certainly bad enough.) I thought when I heard it that it was time for him to go. I had no clue it would be done so quickly and abruptly.
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    Hardball was nuts to watch live. I was about to turn it off when he started talking and my jaw dropped. And when he didn't come back and Kornacki was just about crying for the rest of the 55 minutes? W.O.W.

    I do separate Matthews from like forcible/coercive rapists. Yeah he was awful and should have been gone/coached/whatever years ago, but it's hard to wave the pitchforks too much when there are Harveys and Cosbys around. Or Polanskis getting motherfucking awards. Again, he should have been gone or fixed years ago, but there's a lot of viciousness towards him that's not unfounded and I have trouble with it since he's working through the cancer treatment. I'm not defending him. It's a spectrum and he's sick so I'm less likely to be gleeful, even if I think it was appropriate for him to be gone.

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    Agreed. Even though he had to go after the Laura Bassett story dropped, I'm not gleeful.

    I've already seen a couple of people got after Kornacki for saying nice things about Matthews at the end of the show. That had better not become a thing. Kornacki did a great job keeping it all together even though he and everyone else were stunned.
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    Maybe for once, someone will call me "Sir" without adding, "You're making a scene."

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    That’s amazing. Is there possibility of parole? Hopefully he dies there.

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    Maybe for once, someone will call me "Sir" without adding, "You're making a scene."

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    There's a hero right there, Mira Sorvino. Weinstein torpedoed her career when she wouldn't fuck him. So, she worked in TV and B movies, had four kids with a guy 14 years her junior, and worked as an anti-trafficking activist. And when #MeToo came along, she was ready to become one of its icons.

    Big to her and all of Harvey's survivors today.
    You are not burdening anyone who truly cares about you, by telling someone you feel scared by this. It is scary. Don’t try and be a hero, just be fucking afraid and tell someone. Jessica Barden

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