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    Awesome - we'll get the book and maybe album together

    I feel like I really need to try reddit too but that front page is sooo overwhelming. Do they steal all your data like FB?
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    That's why I decided not to argue with them. I only hope the born-again Christian wannabe boyfriend who refused my advances in 1982 thought the same thing.


    I really don’t miss Facebook, but one of my fonder latter-year memories of using it was getting closer to a lot of my forumz friends. The late aughts into this early past decade was such a dark and confusing series of chapters for me and this place and family offered me so much valuable insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezebelle View Post
    Awesome - we'll get the book and maybe album together

    I feel like I really need to try reddit too but that front page is sooo overwhelming. Do they steal all your data like FB?
    Reddit’s weird. I like many features of it but it misses out on a lot of the sense of warmth or privacy a web forum can offer. To my layman knowledge, it doesn’t steal your data, but AFAIK it doesn’t have a lot of data to collect beyond, like, cookies? It’s not my first choice of communication medium but it definitely feels and looks more like this place than, say, Facebook.

    One of my only big gripes with reddit is how easily one can make multiple throwaway accounts with unlimited access to the @/unf content (ie our favorite harassers, stalkers and critters) without much getting in the way of them coming out unscathed and ready to go again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    Reddit’s weird. I like many features of it but it misses out on a lot of the sense of warmth or privacy a web forum can offer. To my layman knowledge, it doesn’t steal your data, but AFAIK it doesn’t have a lot of data to collect beyond, like, cookies? It’s not my first choice of communication medium but it definitely feels and looks more like this place than, say, Facebook.

    One of my only big gripes with reddit is how easily one can make multiple throwaway accounts with unlimited access to the @/unf content (ie our favorite harassers, stalkers and critters) without much getting in the way of them coming out unscathed and ready to go again.
    There is a way to make the subreddit private - but I think you need to be at a certain level in your reddit rep to do so or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve SFM View Post
    June is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTC View Post
    Ms. Yovanovitch. Bless her. She gave her all and that's all anyone can ask or do. Even with 45's idiotic tweet this morning.
    I couldn't get over my reaction to her. Those of us who live near the DC area know how foolish it is to assume these people are evildoers when they clearly are focused on the task at hand and are more than competent. I think that message is being understood by more people than we might guess. Ms. Yovanovitch reminded me of the wife of a friend of mine who worked for the State Department and quietly did more good than even his neighbors know. She even looks like Yovanovitch. She would have responded exactly the same way if she had been in that position, risking her entire future just to tell the truth and set a good example for her children.

    Once you put a face you know that well on the victim though, it's so much harder to watch them tear her up. That was the only day recently that I spent lying on the couch with x's for eyes reading the same paragraph of a paperback over and over for 48 hours. Then I would wake up and wonder why I was reading about the Zodiac killer at a time like this. This is the worst time in the world to be stuck in that book, because Donald is like the Zodiac killer's idiot brother come to life. Just as lucky but not even close to smart, and he wins because he's always three steps ahead of the law with multiple vehicles to do his crimes in all over the area.

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    Anyway.

    The memories are obviously washing over me and making me feel verkempt, but I keep thinking of the little funny things that happened in various areas of the forum. During the reputation-begging era I was just dipping my toe in other places. I loved the way certain posters would give me very specific praise, like "I only like the bit about the bass." I don't even remember who that was, but I dotted him back with, "I like your hair but I just can't stand those shoes. - xx -Love, Nancy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faust View Post
    To my layman knowledge, it doesn’t steal your data, but AFAIK it doesn’t have a lot of data to collect beyond, like, cookies?
    The content itself is used - they have their own advanced algorithms to index and serve you content to keep you engaged, as well as properly sell ad-space and sponsored links, this works a lot like the old Gmail Sponsored Promotions. The revenue model itself is a lot like Facebook, though I think Reddit makes less money out of it. They also use Google Display Network for a bit to make money out of certain positions they are not actively selling themselves, like the sidebar, which is of course subject to algorithms by Google.

    Then there is other businesses that use scrapers to index the public Reddit content of course, and use that information to improve their own adserving and organic ranking - though that won't happen for a private subreddit of course, unless a bot finds a way to enter.
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    @Spikey, are you ok? Assuming you are, but I'd just like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancy View Post
    @Spikey, are you ok? Assuming you are, but I'd just like to know.
    hey, I just noticed your message. Im okay, did something happen close to that I overlooked?
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    oh wait, this about London, you must mean the other Spike, Spyk!
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    I'm sick of this. I think I had a full-blown manic episode after my letter was printed in the paper. I admit I have a problem. My closest family members are vetting everything I say, but I've never been more willing to go out of the house than ever. My neighbors have been watching over me discreetly as they always do, but I quietly informed them that I would be grateful if they just kept doing what they're doing, because it's going to take some time to find the right therapist. The timing of the hack was a dead giveaway: always attacked when I try to respect my boundaries and share memories in local public threads. Right now I'm only worried about the immediate effect on my family, but my personal friends are in the know. I'm going to ask my friends and neighbors in the know to use my social currency to find the tour book that was stolen from me when I met George Harrison. I know someone around me knows, and I told someone I trust only through my husband to get the rumor mill working on finding that. (personally signed by George (with a little piece of paper that his father signed for me tucked inside) The people that I want to be free to converse with online want to hear those kinds of stories and I always heard outrageous rumors about my orgies backstage. I heard people I knew telling me that they heard my mother show up backstage to drag me away from that scene. They were just jealous that I used her press pass and was nice enough to attract attention.
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    I don't know exactly why, but this is such deeply stressful news to hear. I haven't posted in a while like many of you, and the majority of my posts were from when I was like 15. That was, disturbingly, about 9 years ago. I discovered Tori randomly on Youtube and like I'm sure many of you did when you first found her I fell down the rabbit hole. Became obsessed. Who sings like this? Who plays piano like this? Who talks like this? WHO IS THIS??? I watched every interview I could find and had like 9 different performances of Precious Things bookmarked in my browser. I tried to get all my friends at school to listen to her, I remember showing them the Crucify video and everyone was just like "what the? is she humping the piano?", you're damn right she was. It was 2010, again 9 years ago, oh my god, and Tori wasn't exactly "in" back then. Maybe I was about 10 years too late. I didn't know anyone that liked her or even knew who she was.

    So to find this forum and this vibrant community of fans of hers was so insane to me. I could tell it was already a tight knit community and was a continuation of a past community, I wasn't sure about all that. But I was still so excited to find you people. I was no stranger to internet forums and have had many sagas on forums in the past. To hear you guys talk so fondly about your experiences on internet forums just really makes me go crazy. I feel exactly the same way. The internet used to be like the wild wild west and message boards were like their own towns. They had their own culture, cliques, you recognized people, and you always heard about all the goings on throughout the forum. I grew up on these things. And yes, like a lot of you, I am a gay boy from a small town. In the south. Church. All that. Yeah. And I would have never even thought being gay could be okay until I was on an anime forum of all things and someone made a random thread about gay marriage. There were posts against gay marriage, as people were really dumb in 2009, but there were also posts supporting it. Posts that questioned religion, not just automatically assuming it was correct like I had done. This was so huge for me. Then to soon after find Tori, someone who also questioned the church and the way things were "supposed" to be. Who wasn't afraid to scream and sing and shout and could communicate complex emotions through a few chords on a piano. Someone who was so painfully themselves at all times...It was a revolution for me.

    Anyway, my point is that internet forums have played such a huge part of my life. And it's so weird. Because they're dying, and it will be hard to communicate what they were like to people in the future. Like, how do you even talk about this with people who never used a message board? It's not like it is today, logging onto the internet used to be like logging onto another world. Social media is no substitute, it's just a gross dystopian extension of our own world. I live on reddit, I love reddit, there is a lot of productive fun discourse on reddit, but it's not the same. And Facebook? Fat slut. So to hear that I can't come back to this place and see a classic forum setting, see a community, it's a little distressing. I wonder if there is a way to archive all of this? I just assumed there was enough of a community here to keep this thing going. As embarrassing as my old posts are, I want to save them. Maybe I can find a way to do that. But anyway...yall all gay. I'm out. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soda View Post
    I don't know exactly why, but this is such deeply stressful news to hear. I haven't posted in a while like many of you, and the majority of my posts were from when I was like 15. That was, disturbingly, about 9 years ago. I discovered Tori randomly on Youtube and like I'm sure many of you did when you first found her I fell down the rabbit hole. Became obsessed. Who sings like this? Who plays piano like this? Who talks like this? WHO IS THIS??? I watched every interview I could find and had like 9 different performances of Precious Things bookmarked in my browser. I tried to get all my friends at school to listen to her, I remember showing them the Crucify video and everyone was just like "what the? is she humping the piano?", you're damn right she was. It was 2010, again 9 years ago, oh my god, and Tori wasn't exactly "in" back then. Maybe I was about 10 years too late. I didn't know anyone that liked her or even knew who she was.

    So to find this forum and this vibrant community of fans of hers was so insane to me. I could tell it was already a tight knit community and was a continuation of a past community, I wasn't sure about all that. But I was still so excited to find you people. I was no stranger to internet forums and have had many sagas on forums in the past. To hear you guys talk so fondly about your experiences on internet forums just really makes me go crazy. I feel exactly the same way. The internet used to be like the wild wild west and message boards were like their own towns. They had their own culture, cliques, you recognized people, and you always heard about all the goings on throughout the forum.
    ...

    Anyway, my point is that internet forums have played such a huge part of my life. And it's so weird. Because they're dying, and it will be hard to communicate what they were like to people in the future. Like, how do you even talk about this with people who never used a message board? It's not like it is today, logging onto the internet used to be like logging onto another world. Social media is no substitute, it's just a gross dystopian extension of our own world. I live on reddit, I love reddit, there is a lot of productive fun discourse on reddit, but it's not the same. And Facebook? Fat slut.
    This is exactly how I feel - we lived through such an exciting and interesting time in the history of the internet, before it became completely commercialised and commodified with power centralised with a small group of companies. I suppose there will always elements of that "wild west" aspect if you look hard enough, but it's not the same as when the entire internet felt like an unexplored land with communities of people here and there - remember the joy of just exploring your interests online and then finding other likeminded people with independent websites or in chat rooms or forums? The majority of people are happy now to exist in their Instagram or Facebook bubbles and I don't think it'll ever be the same again. Unf is my last connection to that type of online experience and I will miss it and everyone here so much

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    There's an aspect here that I will truly miss. I feel like I don't have to censure myself here.

    Facebook, with my family watching? Oh yeah. If I wanted to vent about shit, like Nancy did above (and what kind of bullshit is that? Stealing a book? Who does that?), I could come here.

    There's a whole thread dedicated to bitching about work! Good luck trying that on FB and not getting any blow back.

    There's a freedom here that just doesn't exist elsewhere.
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