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    There are plenty of great King adaptations, are you people fucking mental. Kubrick's The Shining wasn't faithful to its source, but it's a stunning movie and an absolutely beautiful piece of horror cinema. The Green Mile isn't overrated and is better than Shawshank imo. The Mist is spectacularly moody and boasts a stellar cast, and the Dead Can Dance sequence is amazing. Carrie is a wonderfully stylish piece of schlock, once you get past DePalma's lingering male gaze opening sequence (which, admittedly, does create a brilliant sense of unease for me). The Raft sequence in Creepshow is fucking hilarious and nasty (I LOVE when that girl's face starts melting and she's like "GOD DAMMIT YOU ASSHOLE WTF"). Misery is great. And the TV adaptations of The Tommyknockers and The Stand are campy brilliance and epicness respectively. Oh, and The Running Man! The Running Man is brill, but I have a soft spot for Arnie.

    And I'm not even a huge King fan (he weaves a good yarn but I find his prose sort of boring after a while - the stories themselves scare me though). I'm sure I've heard rumours of Darabont wanting to make The Long Walk into a movie and I expect that if it happens it'll be the best ever. Just thinking about that one makes me feel a little sick.

    Anyway!

    The Gift - yes, underrated! Brilliant thriller.
    Secretary - TOTALLY OVERRATED. I fucking hated this movie.
    Groundhog Day - in my top 10 movies easily, probably top 5. Endlessly charming and until there's a Groundhog Day channel (har har) it'll be at least a little underrated.

    Alien 3 talk reminds me - Resurrection is totally underrated. It's a bit of a mess, but Jeunet's presence is definitely felt, and I really like that. It's a different kind of grotesque for the series, there's that hot squaddie (that sadly bites the bullet at the last hurdle), the underwater scene is incredibly tense for me (if lacking the sophistication of earlier movies), and it's got some hilariously corny dialogue. "I'm a stranger here myself" - can't tell if that's a hilarious last line or a brilliant one.
    The "beeeeaaauuuuutiful butterfly" bit is absolutely awful though, I'll admit.

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    Overrated: Juno It was cute but after I saw it I just couldn't stop thinking about how much it totally did not live up to the hype, not even close. I mean, not even remotely close.

    Underrated:Doctor Who (In my home town) Everyone else in the world knows the awesomeness of Doctor Who but people here think it's "weird" and "too British." Every time I start telling a friend that I like it they're like "Oh I've heard of that show, you like that stuff? I can't believe you're into that." It's not hardcore puppet porn it's a sci-fi show!

    What's annoying is that it's obvious they've never seen the show but they heard about it from someone else or someone they really don't like watches it and they make these weird assumptions. I used to hate Tori Amos because my aunt told me she was weird and had a bad voice. Then I actually heard Tori Amos and now I'm a fanatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SageBrushFire View Post
    Overrated: Juno It was cute but after I saw it I just couldn't stop thinking about how much it totally did not live up to the hype, not even close. I mean, not even remotely close.
    It was quirky/cute, but definitely over-hyped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No you don't, Oprah. View Post
    There are plenty of great King adaptations, are you people fucking mental. Kubrick's The Shining wasn't faithful to its source, but it's a stunning movie and an absolutely beautiful piece of horror cinema. The Green Mile isn't overrated and is better than Shawshank imo. The Mist is spectacularly moody and boasts a stellar cast, and the Dead Can Dance sequence is amazing. Carrie is a wonderfully stylish piece of schlock, once you get past DePalma's lingering male gaze opening sequence (which, admittedly, does create a brilliant sense of unease for me). The Raft sequence in Creepshow is fucking hilarious and nasty (I LOVE when that girl's face starts melting and she's like "GOD DAMMIT YOU ASSHOLE WTF"). Misery is great. And the TV adaptations of The Tommyknockers and The Stand are campy brilliance and epicness respectively. Oh, and The Running Man! The Running Man is brill, but I have a soft spot for Arnie.
    Yes, to all this. Also, Stand By Me.

    And I still find it hilarious that The Lawnmower Man was marketed as Stephen King's The Lawnmower Man when it has NOTHING to do with the short story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No you don't, Oprah. View Post
    Kubrick's The Shining wasn't faithful to its source, but it's a stunning movie and an absolutely beautiful piece of horror cinema.
    Sure, The Shining is a horror movie classic, but as an adaptation of King's novel, it blows. Same with De Palma's Carrie. I love the film, but Sissy Spacek's Carrie White and King's Carrie White are different characters. That's my point. I'm not saying the movies are necessarily bad - I'm saying they fail as adaptations of the source material. Misery and Dolores Claiborne are probably the best, but the only thing good about them is Kathy Bates.

    And yes, I am fucking mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarion View Post
    Sure, The Shining is a horror movie classic, but as an adaptation of King's novel, it blows. Same with De Palma's Carrie. I love the film, but Sissy Spacek's Carrie White and King's Carrie White are different characters. That's my point. I'm not saying the movies are necessarily bad - I'm saying they fail as adaptations of the source material. Misery and Dolores Claiborne are probably the best, but the only thing good about them is Kathy Bates.
    See, I agree with you about a lot of those movies being a huge departure from the books (although I don't believe that movies need to be rigidly loyal to the source material to be considered successful adaptations), but to come back to where we started, I would have actually said that Shawshank and The Green Mile are two of the best adaptations in the sense of being faithful to the storyline of the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HumptyDumpty View Post

    Underrated:

    One of my favorite movies is Moll Flanders, with Robin Wright. Who is, IMO, a vastly underrated actress. She's easily on par with women like Cate Blanchett and Kate Winslet... however she's managed to remain slightly below radar.

    Death Becomes Her. I NEVER hear about this one... but it's so amazing.
    YESYESYESYESYES.

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    I love Secretary and Dogville!

    All of these films have strong aspects, but I consider them overrated:

    American Beauty--This film just rings false to me.
    Revolutionary Road--Maybe I just don't like Sam Mendes?
    Jerry Maguire--Loathsome. Tom Cruise at his oiliest.
    Juno--Totally agree with the above posters on this. I thought it was obnoxious, actually. Way overwritten.
    21 Grams--Morose chic. Gloomy and ponderous without feeling very substantial--with totally unnecessary shifting time frames to make it seem artier.
    Notes on a Scandal--I know people that find this movie delicious and wicked. I felt like I was missing something.
    The Cider House Rules--The definition of a snoozy, Oscar bait-y film.
    Where the Wild Things Are--Whiny and repetitive.


    Underrated:

    Tully--A tiny film probably seen by three people, but very affecting.
    Birth--Beautifully filmed, Kidman is spellbinding, and it has a haunting, timeless quality.
    In the Cut--Maybe not a great thriller, but an excellent mood piece. Effectively captures a sense of danger and dread. Really good performances.
    Down with Love--The memory of the much better Far From Heaven stole all of this film's thunder, but I thought this was quite sharp and funny.
    The Curious Case of Benjamin Button--It was nominated for Best Picture, so it's not exactly underrated ... but most people I know hate it and think it's Forrest Gump-esque. I was moved. So there!

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    Underrated: The Happening (it's a B-movie, it's SUPPOSED to be ridiculous!)

    Overrated: The Hurt Locker (Brutal and shocking at times, but the main character is so unlikeable and the plot is nonexistent)

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    Personally, I think The Blair Witch Project is one of the most overrated films of all time. Usually I scare easily in suspense films, and I practically yawned my way through the entire thing.

    Pride & Prejudice (with Keira Knightley) is underrated. I know no one ever said it was bad, but I just found it to be incredibly exquisite. The acting, the art direcion, the cinematography, & the music were just . if it weren't for Knightley's awful wig with her short neck hairs peaking out, I'd say it was darn near perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuddlefish View Post
    Underrated: The Happening (it's a B-movie, it's SUPPOSED to be ridiculous!)
    Nope, it's just bad. Really really really bad.

    Re: Shawshank and green mile: I don't think they're bad movies, but they're really not ZOMGBESTMOVIEIHAVEVERSEEN and half the world treats them like they are. It's such an easy, standard and predictable choice. Imo
    post28!

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    ^ The Happening reminded me of They. All throughout the movie I kept thinking "Man this is gonna get so good, I can feel it, this is gonna get really interesting" and then it just never fucking happened.

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    I've heard that They was really screwed over during development and that the original script was far better. The final product was just immensely stupid. What a crappy movie.

    Speaking of underrated Shyamalan, I really liked The Village. Its twist is easily guessed very early on, but I think people got to the stage where they held the twist to be more important than the rest of the film. It's really nicely shot and designed, and I found it involving enough for two hours. Better than Signs or The Happening.

    In The Cut is really great to look at. Style over substance, maybe, but it's definitely worth a look and better than a lot of people suggest.

    eta: and on a Ruffalo tangent, I think Just Like Heaven is great. I've seen it take a lot of flack, but come on, it's an airy fairy rom-com about a dead girl and a slacker shut-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sleeptheclock View Post
    Where the Wild Things Are--Whiny and repetitive.
    Oh, you're going down, betch.

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    Underrated: Jennifer's Body. Absolutely hilarious movie, and I don't know why everyone hates it.

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