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    I was just trying to illustrate how those on the right are pretty much the ones who make shit up.

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    That conflation has been the issue for a long time though. It's what got the right through the last election. Trump might be a racist sexual predator, but Hilary erased some emails. As long as people refuse to see the world through a nuanced lense, there's no hope this trend will get better.

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    It appears now that Franken has another accuser.

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    You can say the Dems are as predatory as GOP in general, you can say Dems protect their own too much, but you can't say they literally do nothing.



    Maybe it's not enough. Maybe Pelosi didn't condemn it correctly. Maybe he should step down entirely. But it's more than the GOP does now.

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    I agree that you can't even begin to compare GOP responses vs Dem on sexual harassment/assault- but Pelosi fucking up the early response so poorly. I'm really disappointed in her.

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    So Pelosi is now saying that Conyers should resign.

    At my core, I think we're gonna be OK.

    Barack Hussein Obama

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    Fucking Paul Ryan said so too. STFU, Paul Ryan. You aren't allowed to be right on this when you're so wrong about your own shit.

    And I think I read Conyers was hospitalized? But I never saw more about it.

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    He was hospitalized due to "stress" today. I wish someone would ask Paul Ryan why he believes Conyers' accusers but not Trump's.

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    Hell, he probably DOES believe Trump's accusers. He just doesn't care, because tax cuts.
    At my core, I think we're gonna be OK.

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    More allegations agains Al Franken. 4 Democratic women senators call for him to step down. I think thats it for him.

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    I'm over the Weinstein-friends-with-Hillary stuff. I keep reading it and it ANGERS me. I'm not saying it's a complete non-story, but SHE is being blamed for HIS actions and the actions of HIS company for decades. People are all "Oh, she lost; she should go away and shut up" and yet every time there is a hint of scandal around anyone she ever was near, it's a HUGE STORY because of proximity.

    I'm tired of her having to answer for the crimes of the men around her. And yes, maybe she enabled and turned a blind eye, but EVERYONE ELSE DID TOO so why does she get more blame THAN THE PERPETRATORS OR THE PERVERT IN THE OVAL OFFICE?

    Her maybe knowing about Weinstein is worse than what Weinstein did or Trump did and that is why I'm fucking just over this issue.

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    I'm personally feeling heartbroken about Al Franken's resignation. I feel he was a bright light in the Democratic Party and a staunch political ally for those on the left. I'll just leave this quote from a friend,

    "I feel this was a political hit job. Each women's case needs examining, since the first one was totally discredited but another came out the same day that it was discredited. Two are anonymous, why? This has never been his personality or behavior, he's not a power bully. Only after he put pressure on Jeff Sessions did these stories arise. He was framed."

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    Here’s my problem. The “left” is demanding accountability from people for this kind of behavior. Conyers and Franken are gone. Eliot Spitzer went away. Kevin Spacey lost his recurring roles and is being blacklisted, as he should be. The right screams about how awful these people are and how hypocritical liberals are, yet the liberals are some of the loudest voices calling for these people to step down.

    On the flip side, you have a pussy-grabbing president who’s been accused by dozens of women, and a pedophile who’s about to win a Senate seat in Alabama. Why does the right get away with it? Why do they get to demand that the left holds their side accountable while making every excuse in the book for their own?

    Once again, Democrats brought a knife to a gun fight. We will continue to do the right thing and we will lose for it. There is now a separate standard that we hold republicans to versus democrats.

    Also, this was brought about by Roger Stone after Franken went after Jeff Sessions, so regardless of Franken’s boorish behavior it’s clear that this happened as retaliation. Stone and the other republicans don’t give two shits about women being sexually harassed — they only used it as a tool to take down a democrat. Look at what Cernovich did to Sam Seder. He got pissed at Seder and dug through his Twitter until he found a joke that he could exploit and used that to have MSNBC fire Seder. They now know these tactics work. Be prepared for an onslaught of this in 2018. They know our side will do a bunch of in-fighting and eventually demand for the moral victory of doing the right thing, while their side comes together to ensure election victories. They aren’t playing fair. They are letting us destroy ourselves because we’re letting it happen.

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    I teared up when I watched his speech, I'm not going to lie. I just hope it's not special repeat of the Bernie Bros vs. The Hillary supporters when a replacement is chosen. I would imagine most Hillary supporters would want a woman to take his place, and I'm pretty sure the Bernie people would prefer Keith Ellison.


    Here Are 6 Women (And 1 Man) Who Could Replace Al Franken In The Senate
    With Franken announcing his resignation over sexual harassment allegations, here’s a look at who could take his place.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02d3bfc37a9bc

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